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John's avatar

Obviously a bit if rhetorical hyperbole (in order to "arrest them all" we would need to have 'arrestors' who have similar principles as us, and similar power as "them"). But wouldn't it be nice to see justice dealt to each and every one.

And the thought of an American version of the French Revolution (make guillotines great again) would most likely get hijacked into some real life version of the purge.

What we can do, although not as dramatic, is turn off the the attention we pay to these leaches of time, sanity and integrity.

We do need a national divorce, from the idea that governments are to provide anything much beyond national defense and useful roads.

We all have to relearn the shortest most powerful word, NO.

Stop complying with their edicts.

Stop playing their games.

Stop giving them attention.

Stop believing their bs.

Start, living like people free to pursue liberty, a full and enriched life and the happiness of controlling one's own destiny.

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Rob D's avatar

Thanks John. You got where I was coming from. :)

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The Word Herder's avatar

BEST RESPONSE AWARD! Cheers.

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

Some really good ideas John. But I would say that you (collectively you) need to do more than ignore them. Replace their ideas with those that make American/Constitutional sense. This takes an enormous amount of effort. Have you started yet? What have you done/will do to see this initiative through? Share your ideas with the others who would be willing to stand up for responsible liberty.

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John's avatar

I agree that we all must do our part to rectify our collapsing society. I also agree with the question "What have you done?", and that it is a fair question.

For me the number one thing is to remove my dependency on government. I do not participate in government handouts, of any kind (subsidies, tax breaks, incentives), even occasionally at my own loss. Is that pragmatic? No, but it helps me sleep better.

A big part of that self sufficiency is to be able to discern reality from propaganda. Read, listen, ask questions, unplug the ubiquitous telescreens.

I am vocal at local government meetings when I am able to attend. Do not accept their scripted pablum, ask questions (politely but assertively), dig for answers, many in the room do not know. Contact elected representatives and remind them that their job is not to protect the bureaucratic establishments of government, but that their job it to hold those "ministries" accountable. Many need to be reminded of that relationship and held to that standard.

I do not comply with their suggested edicts, especially when it comes to my or my family's health concerns. FDA or CDC "approved" usually means, big pharma or big corp. approved for more profit and less health. Simply asking a question, "why?" will usually show their invalidity.

Long ago I stopped believing in the tooth fairy, and the idea that politicians were there to help me. They get zero dollars, zero "likes", zero adoration from me. Pissing into a bucket full of lobbyist and special interest cash is stupid.

Would I like to flip a switch and see our governments become small, efficient, useful and respectful of our Constitution, our rights and our autonomy to make our own decisions? Certainly, but we both know that won't happen. Do we ALL need to do something to push back, nudge, inflect this behemoth ever so slightly in the right direction, yes! But the key component isn't what I or you have done or say what we will do. What is key is that WE DO IT. Each in our own little ways, or else we are just good little sheep of the flock, all with the same destiny.

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

Thanks for that John. I do not comply with that which does not make sense to me (i.e. Covid19 shots). I also contact my representatives regularly and attend local gov meetings and assemblies so I can learn firsthand what is being done, why and provide my timely feedback. The channels of government run deep and vast so keeping up with an initiative can be daunting both in grasping the details and in keeping up with the process. Kudos to anyone who can manage to do this.

Keep doing what you are doing, I think it helps.

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Rob D's avatar

Hey Brian. I didn't see what happened in my latest post. I usually try to catch those unruly commenters and nip it in the bud as I do not want uncivilized behavior in my stack. We get enough of that in the world as it is. Apologies my friend. I hope you won't stop participating on my posts. I value what you have to say.

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

Hey Rob. You are so right about getting enough bad behavior out in the physical world. I try to be accurate and honest about my thoughts that I post online. I find that clarity is not as valued by others as it is by me. The person who makes a point of attacking my opinions doesn't seem to be able to accept that having differing thoughts on a subject than they do is ok and even encouraged in civil society. I am open to be educated but if I challenge a thought, I ask that the writer be able to defend their thoughts through a classical argument structure, at least in part. It seems that is too much to ask of them (not sure if the person behind the screen name is male or female). The Word Herder shows their ass particularly well in this string and they tend to bring out the combative in me and my key strokes can be sharp. I don't need more of that. All the best to you, Rob.

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Rob D's avatar

Agreed. I certainly like seeing some of those debates in my posts for sure. But if someone gets off the topic of the post and especially if they start resorting to childish personal attacks and dropping expletives it really disappoints me and kinda pisses me off. I have learned new things from your comments before and/or reevaluated my opinion about something. Please don't let word herder chase you away. I've deleted a few of their comments before because what was being said wasn't adding to the banter but was causing hate and discontent. I'll try and keep a closer eye. Good day my friend.

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The Word Herder's avatar

What have YOU done, Brian? And we will want PROOF.

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The Word Herder's avatar

I share your outrage, on many fronts!

However, not sure we can any longer count on "authority" to do what we want them to...

The entire Jan 6 event was a set-up, a TRAP.

I don't KNOW what is what, exactly, regarding Trump, but I want to just put this out there, because a lot of the time now, things are not what they seem. There's a LOT of fuckery going on, a LOT of Divide and Conquer, a LOT of psy-op behaviors, and so I strongly advise my own philosophy: QUESTION EVERYTHING. And I do mean Everything.

So, that said, think about this: WHAT IF this whole Trump being treated as an Enemy of the State is a hoax? What if Trump is a PSY-OP? He's a billionaire. What are the chances that he is "clean" the way the ordinary people are?

Now before everybody starts screaming at me, I did say I DON'T KNOW the answers these questions, but WE NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS and SMART. Okay, that's my 2 cents.

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Rob D's avatar

My post was rhetorical. It seems most people didn't understand what I was trying to say. My point? None of them are innocent. If they are going to arrest one, they should arrest them all. It wasn't a call to action because I know it would never happen. The point of my post was based on principle: "Why should one of these government officials get arrested when they are all corrupt?" What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

The key to addressing the corruption is organization. Many or a very active smaller group need to make organized efforts to expose what is happening and WHY it is not good for America/Americans for it to continue. As well as describing what the constitutional approach should be and WHY. Most Americans, in my opinion, do not understand our constitutional government and therefore risk losing it.

Impediments to success:

- media coverage; network "news" is currently controlled by the left. How is this legal?

- active leadership; dedicated people committed to the long term are needed.

- follow up to proposals; demand that local governments address your concerns in writing and/or video. Don't allow them to dismiss your concerns.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Brian: There already ARE organized groups trying to expose what is happening. Are you not aware there is a lot of censorship?? Smearing? Even arrests and other types of foul play? You ask How this is legal... lol. That sounds soooo naive. Very little of what our govt. has done since at least the early 1900's, ie, the FED, or maybe even 1871, when we became a corporation, without a whisper to the People, much less a VOTE on it.

Nobody is saying "trust no one," you seem a bit prone to knee-jerking here... And why are you being so scornful to others, when your entire solution seems to be based on begging the govt, central or local, to fix the problems? The govt's are part of the problems, m'dear. "Don't allow them to dismiss your concerns." What exactly did you have in mind?

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

There are those of us who actually attend government meetings to bring issues to the table. "Don't allow them to dismiss your concerns" is encouragement to not let the government ignore your concerns. Keep bringing it to their attention until a satisfactory answer is provided. Most people will not spend the time following up on an issue. I am not begging, I am working with government officials. Some of these people who run the government are friends. All of them are people. Government can be and often is the root of a problem but I will always encourage communication and interaction to work together to solve problems.

What is wrong with this approach?

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

Calm down shit for brains. Someone will follow you sooner or later. No need to get overly hyperbolic.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Don't pretend you understand big words. I know who you are, "Brian." Coward.

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Fat Rabbit Iron's avatar

I agree that there's something fishy going on. Why arrest him *now*? It feels like a circus distraction.

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

Just last week email evidence came out connecting the Biden family to the CCP. Have you heard of this or seen it on the "news"? No? I (don't) wonder why.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Yes, it does. And maybe it's another ploy to get us at each other... They're really really hoping we'll have a civil war so we can kill each other and they won't have to do it...

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

You are saying trust no one. Believe nothing. Everything is a "PSY-OP".

That approach would essentially freeze everyone in place for fear of supporting the wrong thing. But then everything would be wrong/PSY-OP so no harm in doing nothing right?

You are a genius Word Herder. I'd follow you absolutely nowhere.

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The Word Herder's avatar

I'm not saying that, YOU are saying I said that. Did you not READ what I said, or are you that same sniveling rat-face dickhead that's been following me around and insulting me? You don't intimidate me, regardless, "Brian." You're a coward, really, aren't you? Hiding behind your keyboard and berating everybody. Why not fuck off? ^_^

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Brian Lincoln's avatar

This is the same stupid shit you always pull. You write something, someone calls you on it and then you say you didn't write it.

Following you around?! You wish someone was following you.

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The Word Herder's avatar

I "always" pull? LOL So you ARE that little POS that follows me around wishing he was a dog.

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Mike Huggins's avatar

Agree, but who will make the arrests? What judge will convict them for their crimes? We need law enforcement, Sheriff, to break rank, deputize thousands in each state and start arresting Gov with no charge like the J6 group rotting in jail. Let them sit until we can clean up the courts. I like that you are thinking of a plan. We must start talking about this, developing this or THEY will create the plan to prosecute THEM.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Yes, and while there ARE corrupt Sheriffs, the Sheriffs made a vow to uphold the Constitution, unlike cops. Not saying all cops are bad, just as not all Sheriffs are good. But yeah.

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Mike Huggins's avatar

I've worked numerous false flags and have found the local Sheriff dept participating. I'm aware they are equally corrupt, but they can deputize citizens. It's going to take a Sheriff to go rogue joined by numerous others to jump rank and get a domino effect going state by state.

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The Word Herder's avatar

I'm down for the Sheriffs... I think they're pretty good, mostly.

And they're not going rogue if they're defending the PEOPLE and the Constitution!!!

That's their job, yeah!

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The Word Herder's avatar

I'm in WA, too. ^_^

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

If you are serious about those prices! Sounds like hyper inflation.

Can't arrest them all but a bit of public shaming would be good.

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AndyinBC's avatar

Why CAN'T we arrest them all?

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The Word Herder's avatar

Do you trust the cops/govt/courts?

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AndyinBC's avatar

Absolutely! I trust them, ALL of them, to do their best to attempt to comply with the intent - stated or unstated, of the people who guarantee their pensions or sign their paycheques.

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

Not enough prisons to hold them all.

Never ending job.

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The Word Herder's avatar

Wow. Um... WHY?

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