11 Comments
User's avatar
serafino bueti's avatar

Thanks Rob. The only observation I'll add is to take a look at any old photos from the 50s/early 60s and see what the people back then looked like compared to many/most folks today. Clear, bright, slim ( rx and vaccine-free, mostly) compared to the majority of unhealthy souls today. It's sad, although I think that many are catching on.

Expand full comment
The Word Herder's avatar

Good post, thanks!!

I'm pleased to have these links, brother of another mother. ;)

Expand full comment
Fat Rabbit Iron's avatar

Not trolling --

How is pasteurization a scam?

Besides an exponentially higher bacteria count, what is qualitatively different about raw milk?

The act of cooking is the act of heating food. Why is it ok to heat meat and eggs but unnatural to heat milk?

Expand full comment
Rob (c137)'s avatar

They heat the milk to a high temperature which along with homogenizing breaks up the fat and protein into smaller pieces which oxidize faster causing free radicals.

Expand full comment
Fat Rabbit Iron's avatar

Why doesn't heating any food containing protein and fat (like meat or eggs) "cause free radicals"?

Expand full comment
The Word Herder's avatar

Because heating the milk kills all the good nutrients in it.

And btw, eating FRESH food is generally better than cooking it first, if it's clean food.

You can thank Louis Fraud Pasteur for that, he was a complete IDIOT.

A good source of a more scientific explanation for this milk cooking question is Tom Cowan, via the Weston Price Foundation... They're good about food and diet, etc.

https://www.westonaprice.org/#gsc.tab=0

Expand full comment
Rob D's avatar

Thanks for providing that information Word Herder. I didn't want my post to turn into a debate on nutrition! This was supposed to be a helpful post and it's been completely sidelined. How sad. Thanks again!

Expand full comment
The Word Herder's avatar

Sorry.

Expand full comment
Fat Rabbit Iron's avatar

Precisely what "good nutrients" does it kill? Is eating raw eggs healthier than boiling or frying them?

Expand full comment
Rob D's avatar

My post wasn't a debate on nutritional content of foods. It was to try and help people who are trying to do better to find some resources. Many people don't know where to look. My point on destroying beneficial enzymes, etc is more "The government doesn't tell you that you can't eat a raw (rare) steak, but by God you better not drink "raw" milk". Personally, I don't drink milk at all. I use milk as an ingredient in some things. But people should have the right to drink and eat what they want. I don't think that humans really "need" 'to drink milk from another animal. Should we boil the milk before feeding it to the calf? Should we start boiling human mother's milk before giving it to the baby? Raw milk does have some benefits regarding gut flora. Many supplements for gut health are actually made from the very enzymes that are cooked out of raw milk. Colon cancer has become a problem for people who are in their 30's and 40's now. These are all things that can be easily studied. Again, I was trying to be helpful and kind with this post to try and steer people towards some options they may not be aware of if they are interested in eating better. I had no intention of debating raw vs cooked food. But thanks for giving me an idea for a future post. Again: The government is not telling people it is *illegal* to eat anything else raw. But drinking "raw" milk is still illegal in many places. I think asking "why" regarding that is even more critical than the raw vs cooked debate. I've found in my life that doing the opposite of what government is demanding is usually the better choice. But, that's just me. Thanks for stopping by.

Expand full comment
Fat Rabbit Iron's avatar

I get it. I was just genuinely curious. Raw milk has a lot of pop science buzz, and I'm trying to peel back the layers. I genuinely don't get why heating something up ruffles so many feathers. Surely we can't be the first people to put milk on a fire.

Expand full comment