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The Word Herder's avatar

Nope, you're WRONG.

Ha, ha, just playin'. ^_^ I think you're right about the idea that pretty much everyone agrees on certain things that are the critical things for life and a decent life at that. I've been talking about this too, for a couple of years, but not very very recently, so maybe I'll do a post around this idea. I do agree that what we choose to FOCUS on is a critical part of coming together. It always has been, no?

Good post, brother man. xo

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John's avatar

I read you r piece three times thinking about how to constructively comment. Here goes.

Where to start…. how about, we agree and disagree? It is one thing to preach to the choir of curious minds who can rotate shapes and juggle two realities at the same time before settling on a preferred one, it is another to change the hearts and minds of those so entrenched they can’t even see the sky any longer.

This message of “let’s seek agreement, to end division” has been flown up the flagpole many times. I agree that there needs to be more conversations, more debates, more acceptance of differing perspective. But that perception cannot be a two-way mirror, but rather an open sash where the breeze can blow both ways. These days that is rarely the case.

Another problem lies in the reciprocation of the conversations. It is one thing to have a rational discussion with rational people, and whether consensus is reached or not, at least different views can be talked about. That’s all great, until the listening stops, the rationality stops, even the sophist consideration of an opposing viewpoint becomes imaginary. Then the division sets in and becomes more deeply entrenched.

The other problem is there are things, that are right and wrong. There is a reason for discernment and making choices. No amount of sophistry can make some of the more recent batshit crazy ideas seem even vaguely palatable.

I agree we need to take the high road and have conversations, especially with those we disagree with. I also know that appeasement, or changing the topic (ie narrative) is temporary at best and perceived as childlike.

The other glaring but disguised issue is the level of bureaucratic and “journalistic” corruption and collusion to spin up the citizenry into breaking themselves down (most likely to be more controllable). You mentioned, “Food. A decent job. A decent place to live. Happiness. Family. Friends. Freedom to do what I want. Personal health (and the ability to make their own health choices). The ability to travel. The ability to worship or not to worship. The ability to choose their own peer group. Finding love.” Every one of these have become issues of division, because, of government intervention, control and regulation. If we could agree on at least some of these issues, or at least live and let live, then we could fight the real enemy (government largesse).

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